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wildpaws 01-25-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6083028)
Lighter weight
Rigid chassis
High revving engine that has a nice torque curve
Solid seats (manual is fine. I can adjust my own seats)
6 or 7 speed manual trans that shifts nicely.
Good paint
Forged aluminum wheels
Sticky tires
Stiff suspension
Good head lights
Cup holders somewhere other than right behind the shifter so I can have a cup in there and shift at the same time
Factory performance parts and tunes that don't void the warranty.

Sounds like a good wish list to me!
Clyde

Gen5 01-25-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian 1LE SS (Post 5970372)
First off get the weight down by about 300lbs. The new LT1 should be good with a lighter car. Make the car narrower by about 3 inches. Shorter by 2 inches. Lower the belt line of the whole car about 2 inches. I am tired of these tall doors, quarter panels and fenders. Try to make visabilty better. I like the interior except for the dual gauge pods. Change those.


Right on Brian. It would be nice if it lost 500lbs. And PLEASE have functional VISORS....Smaller wheels (19 or 18 ) so those of us that race can get some rubber on them.

Brian, Are you going to race much this year. I am thinking about turning the 2010 into a 1LE..... Money........... See ya at the track :thumbup:

Those new GoodYears are great. I ordered 4 because Goodyear are not going to make anymore ?????? They have 144 275/40/17 left

Russell James 01-25-2013 08:53 PM

For the V-8 model -

6.2L, keep the displacement the same, and hp at or near the Vette.

No AFM with the manual trans. Don't care if it is supposedly imperceptible, don't want it.

450ish hp base V-8 performance model, with a higher level performance model either supercharged or large cube 427.

Styling wise.... take a pro touring style '69 just like this one, and slightly modernize it. Stay with that retro first gen-ish styling. Don't overdo the rear with spaceshipy tail ligts/sharp angles.... like the new Corvette.

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...s-1280x782.jpg

Sweet Z 01-25-2013 09:59 PM

No AFM?
 
One thing that I see a lot of on this post is the suggestion of no AFM. That could possibly mean a gas guzzler tax. The ZL-1 has one, and it is a little bit of a pill to choke on when you have to pay a couple of grand for it. Just a consideration.....

Mr. Wyndham 01-25-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell James (Post 6083563)
No AFM with the manual trans. Don't care if it is supposedly imperceptible, don't want it.

Just curious for your thoughts - what if you could turn it off via a button/mode setting from the factory?

liberty 01-26-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Z (Post 6083862)
One thing that I see a lot of on this post is the suggestion of no AFM. That could possibly mean a gas guzzler tax. The ZL-1 has one, and it is a little bit of a pill to choke on when you have to pay a couple of grand for it. Just a consideration.....

Good point. Big Brother says: You WILL have AFM or 4-cylinder turbos or battery power or gas guzzler tax – just because.

Sweet Z 01-26-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham (Post 6083962)
Just curious for your thoughts - what if you could turn it off via a button/mode setting from the factory?

They already have that. You push it with your right foot :>

Ajmalian 01-26-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja (Post 6081167)
What car do you own? I drove an M3 and it was completely different than what your experience seems to be...

I doubt you've driven an M3 with a DCT transmission because I have driven a few myself and they drive exactly like what 'Sweet Z' has described. I've even driven the new M6 which has DCT and its the same story. DCT's are indeed automatic transmissions equipped with two clutches. Each attending to the alternate gears. The SMG gear box is the one that really can't be categorised as automatic, even though it too works on paddle shifter and shifter lever and no clutch pedal.

I think what you've driven is one of the M3's which was equipped with the SMG gear box, cuz that drove very much like what you initially were describing, basically like a proper manual transmission....just minus the clutch pedal.

Are you sure the M3 you drove had DCT? Because even the current outgoing M3 comes with DCT, but as an option....just needs you to throw in the bigger bucks...otherwise it comes standard with the old SMG or a stick shift!!

Russell James 01-26-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham (Post 6083962)
Just curious for your thoughts - what if you could turn it off via a button/mode setting from the factory?

Still don't want AFM, even if you can shut it off. The problematic lifters would still be there. The low lift, low revving cam would still be there. Huge resonator and quiet mufflers to kill the drone would still be there. Valves in the exhaust before the mufflers on convertibles. Marshmallow soft eng/trans/diff mounts to control the AFM vibes... equals wheel hop. AFM means all kinds of band aids get added on to mask the problems created by AFM. All to just barely, get a hair more mpg.

I'd rather have a V8 performance car, all designed around the performance of a strong V8. Give it a muscle car exhaust note, firm up the driveline mounting to get rid of the wheel hop. Give it a cam that will pull to 6600 rpm, and lifters that won't crap out. If that means paying a gas guzzler tax, I'd rather do that then have a muscle car that keeps switching to 4 cyl.

What we really need is some lobbyist help or petitioning DC to put some exceptions to the gas guzzler laws. If a company's total fleet of vehicles gets quite good mileage, give some exceptions for the lower volume specialty cars. Or if someone's daily driver is a gas mizer... they get one free gas guzzler. Or, make anything capable of alternative fuel (E85)... exempt from the gas guzzler tax.

adplusone 01-28-2013 08:22 AM

PDK like transmission.

alexhegler 01-28-2013 09:04 AM

**** all v6s

The IOM Ninja 01-28-2013 09:21 AM

Wish list for things to change on 6th generation Camaro?
 
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Originally Posted by Ajmalian (Post 6085920)
I doubt you've driven an M3 with a DCT transmission because I have driven a few myself and they drive exactly like what 'Sweet Z' has described. I've even driven the new M6 which has DCT and its the same story. DCT's are indeed automatic transmissions equipped with two clutches. Each attending to the alternate gears. The SMG gear box is the one that really can't be categorised as automatic, even though it too works on paddle shifter and shifter lever and no clutch pedal.

I think what you've driven is one of the M3's which was equipped with the SMG gear box, cuz that drove very much like what you initially were describing, basically like a proper manual transmission....just minus the clutch pedal.

Are you sure the M3 you drove had DCT? Because even the current outgoing M3 comes with DCT, but as an option....just needs you to throw in the bigger bucks...otherwise it comes standard with the old SMG or a stick shift!!

Nope 2011 M3 Frozen Gray Cabrio with a DCT

The setup of a DCT is also more similar to that of a manual than an automatic. They are not true automatics and they are not true manuals they are a combination (Semi-Automatic or Automated Manual). Also a Stick Shift is standard, they got rid of the SMG a while ago.

If you can show me that they do still offer the SMG though I'd like to see it because I can't find a single reference to it past 2008... :iono:

guapo 01-28-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SS45th (Post 5970401)
Guidelines were added, at least on my 12.

And the steering wheel is way better in the 12, wouldn't buy another car if it had the 2010 wheel.


They took them away (guidelines) on the 2013...

coreyspindlah11 01-28-2013 04:15 PM

LT1 motor.
less weight.
better interior.
better shift knob (stock one is horrible).
nicer seats.
better sounding exhaust (stock sounds like a honda)
closer gear ratio.

Mr. Wyndham 01-28-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by karguy (Post 6093196)
AFM would kill the new Camaro for me.
-Heavy lifters,no low rpm sound,vibration and all that for just a couple mpg on the sticker...:thumbdown:
I'd rather pay gas-guzzler tax because in the real world you put your foot into it to disable AFM,use more gas that a V-8 driven in low rpm and have the heavy valvetrain.
AFM is nothing than a gimmick and a bad idea with a push-rod valvetrain.
With ohc or dohc at least you don't have the penalties of a slower revving,heavier valvetrain because there is no need for 8 heavy AFM lifters...
No AFM with the V-8 !
Get a Cruze-Eco instead...;)

Not necessarily advocating for it......but it's no gimmick...truly saves gas, and is ingenious in its engineering.

I sincerely look forward to seeing how they have it operate on the LT1 in the Corvette. They wouldn't put something sub-standard on the Corvette...that's why the C6 didn't have it. So it should be pretty good. :)

My hope, and since they offer an "off" button for the AFM on the Vette, is that it is truly seamless, and doesn't effect the sound at all (with clever exhaust tuning, of course.)

PYROLYSIS 01-28-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham (Post 6094841)
Not necessarily advocating for it......but it's no gimmick...truly saves gas, and is ingenious in its engineering.

I sincerely look forward to seeing how they have it operate on the LT1 in the Corvette. They wouldn't put something sub-standard on the Corvette...that's why the C6 didn't have it. So it should be pretty good. :)

My hope, and since they offer an "off" button for the AFM on the Vette, is that it is truly seamless, and doesn't effect the sound at all (with clever exhaust tuning, of course.)

An on and off switch for AFM would be nice but I'm willing to bet it would get used more often than not. I know I would leave it on for the daily grind.

The IOM Ninja 01-28-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham (Post 6094841)
Not necessarily advocating for it......but it's no gimmick...truly saves gas, and is ingenious in its engineering.

I sincerely look forward to seeing how they have it operate on the LT1 in the Corvette. They wouldn't put something sub-standard on the Corvette...that's why the C6 didn't have it. So it should be pretty good. :)

My hope, and since they offer an "off" button for the AFM on the Vette, is that it is truly seamless, and doesn't effect the sound at all (with clever exhaust tuning, of course.)

My gas mileage in my L99 SS went up after disabling AFM...





Just saying...

mcsoul 01-28-2013 08:30 PM

I'd like to see the new camaro get some interior inspiration from the new corvette C7.
At the same time keeping the quad gauge pod at the bottom of the center stack, but
with a higher end appeal.

efpardo 01-28-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rray (Post 6065726)
I hope they come out with a twin turbo LFX V6 version, so we can geat a CARB legal boost! Nobody makes them, and there are a lot of V6's in CA.

Twin Turbo! Yes! With something to give the Nissan GTR goosebumps.

mcsoul 01-29-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by efpardo (Post 6095797)
Twin Turbo! Yes! With something to give the Nissan GTR goosebumps.

Quite possible, because it's in development for Cadillac:

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2012/04/...d-v6-the-3-6l/

Chevy_Man 01-29-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by karguy (Post 6097551)
My opinion on AFM is that it is a useless gimmick just to comply with the new cafe of 35,5mpg.
GM just doesn't sell enough VOLTS...
I also don't think that there will be a off-button for AFM because otherwise they would get sued because of the certified mpg number.
So in the real world people will enjoy maybe a couple mpg better fuel economy but those people don't buy V-8 cars in first place but get real economic cars.
Guys like us will drive in a lower gear with higher rpm to defeat AFM to drive in V-8 mode for the sound or whatever and get worse mpg...
On top of that in pushrod motors AFM burdens the valvetrain with 8 heavier lifters...:thumbdown:
Don't get me wrong I love better fuel economy but I am not a fan of AFM on a pushrod V-8 !I love low rpm V-8 sound and you can't get that with AFM...:(



Doesn't really bother me. I just use the Tapshift when I feel the need for a little more hooliganism! The AFM actually probably really helps this car get amazing mileage on the highway. I've had lots of times where on a 280km trip to the city I get all the way down to 10L/100km at 128km/h. That's amazing mileage for a 6.2litre engine. I can't complain! Just wish that the stock exhaust on the Automatic engine was more aggressive. It's pretty tame until you give it at least half gas

OldScoolCamaro 01-29-2013 04:48 PM

I would like to have revised; The drivers vision forward. One can't see past the pillar post's forward, making it near impossible to judge the nose clearance and distance. This is a gamble in parking situations with contacting parking barriers, or other low ground objects forward. The rear quarter windows and long sail panel are vision obstructions, but not as bad as the the front. The side view mirrors compensate for the rear vision discrepancy. The center console is very high. The console compartment door height is above the shifter horizontal plane of movement, causing elbow contact with the door. Cup holder is impractical due to proximity of the shifter, causes contact to anything in the holder when shifting. I would like to see standard HID Halo lights, phase out the mailbox slot, have a matching upper and lower grille pattern on all models. Redesign the bulky/awkward looking rear standard diffuser. Do not offer any heritage design wheels or caps, design everything fresh on a new clean sheet of paper for the C6 Camaro. Phase out the block script CAMARO emblem. Don't incorporate anything on the body's exterior such as slots, vents, scoops etc...that is not functional. Include in optional hi performance package racing seats and harnesses. That's a few more thoughts I have for now. :chevy:


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