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damn tree huggers... wonder when they will start throwing red paint on our cars
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And the fact would also be that if the Camaro didn't come with a V8 there would be one less Camaro owner out there "ME".
All you V6ers can talk all the "burn" crap you want, but with out the history of the V8 the history of the Camaro changes in a big way, and more then likely we wouldn't have the 5th gen we have today.. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, and STFU already nobody cares what you purchased and drive but you.. It's just a car and its your car so get in drive and enjoy.. V6ers saved the Camaro and V8, that is the dumbest yet funniest thing I have read on this Fourm!! |
They should keep the V8 but incorporate technology where the engine shuts off at stoplights and where 4 cylinders deactivate when you don't need the horsepower. That way, Camaros can keep that exhaust sound that everyone is in love with and kick the future Mustang's butt. A turbo V6 would be nice too. Anything over 400 hp is a bit excessive for daily use. Also... what happened to door panels that resisted door dings that Saturn used to put on their cars? Their cars were super lightweight, quick and great on gas mileage without all that extra steel.
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But seriously, nobody believes the V6 or the V8 saved the Camaro. They go hand in hand when it comes to this car. GM saved it by making it attractive this time around. Without the good looks, the car fails, and same goes for the next gen. |
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Love the LS7. If you knew my life story you might begin to understand that. Where did you get the hoping for a Prius Camaro? We do have a $1 Million dollar Porsche Hybrid though. Is that a bad thing? The Camaro IS a coupe. LS and LT compete against other V6 coupes in the same price range. You are missing something if you don't understand the the coupe banner is carried by the Camaro. And if all you need in a stylish coupe is a V6 for some fun and reasonable economy, then the things that this website has b**ched about for 3 years now matter. Trunk space and lift over. High belt lines and poor visibilty. Poor sightlines out the back. And as many miles as I've put on Camaro's, I have yet to try to parallel park one. You act as if there were no Berlinettas in the Camaros past. At it's heart it is a stylish and affordable coupe. SS, IROC and Z28 versions over the years have made for some awesome cars...............based on a stylish coupe. Would GM be better off if the Camaro was THE coupe of choice? Stealing sales from Honda and Nissan? You better believe it. I hope you able to see the train wreck of higher and higher gas prices coming at us. And I am curious as to what that solution is from your perspective. The only way to keep a V8 powered car in the Fleet is to have far more economical choices to choose from. And if stealing sales from Honda and Nissan on the 4 and 6 cyclinder cars gets the numbers high enough then there is more room for a V8 in the Average. Also don't you think the Camaro would have been farrrrrrrr better off at launch with an interior and ergonomics similar to the Honda and Nissan coupes? Boy I sure do. |
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When are you guys going to understand that buyers don't respect companies who sell "performance" cars whose main purpose is economy? And that there's always another option. |
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Anyway, the US is going through an energy boom right now. And once other countries start using fracking tech, energy worries are over. The only thing keeping gas prices up right now is our sinking dollar. All commodity prices are up because of it. |
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Try to get past the idea that 4's are incapable of decent performance. And for the record, I've been mentioning IL-6's as well. Not all sixxes are/were V's. Norm |
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Obviously, the two wouldn't exist without each other. That's not the point. You don't hear any V6 owners saying the V8's don't belong do you? Let's try to keep things in context here. Watching these threads to into all out bashes is sooo fun. I'll just sit back and watch. This is getting good. :popcorn: |
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....Sinking good money into a "smaller" engine takes away funds and technology research, whatever that could go into improving v-6s and v8s.. If the Camaro had no other option than the v-8, sure sales would suffer and the need for a less expensive option would be needed to keep the car afloat...But that is not the case...The v-6 has done just fine for several years already... I sort of see more v-6ers cheerleading for an I-4 just so they can rub an embarrassing engine in the face of v-8 owners...sad to see performance, horsepower, "muscle", if you will, going in the wrong direction... |
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I understand that the market and regulations are changing and a 4-cyl. Camaro may very well be in our future. I agree with you on the whole 'use the money on improving what you already have' deal. The CAFE standards are a crock though. Carbureted engines have been getting 40+ MPG for decades and suddenly it's a problem to get an electric car over that. Then you have the VW Rabbit Diesel which easily saw 55+. I would much rather see future Camaros have no less than 6 cylinders but if they decide to drop a '4' in one I'll just not buy it and continue my life as normal :laugh: |
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Chevy HAD a four cylinder Camaro in the 70's. They just called it the "Vega" I had one for about six months. It was a bad idea then. It's a bad idea now.
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It's so bad nowadays that people freely give up their freedoms to coporatists in the GOV getting rich off this claptrap while accumulating power from stolen liberty. All the while the clapping seal reporters^h^h^h^h^h^h repeaters churn out propaganda that blinds many people to the facts until it is too late. |
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We have to draw the line before these things happen, otherwise it will snowball. How would you like to live in a world where you are told what job you will have and what state you must live in. |
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If all that is true, then pretty much mothing we are being forced to do now regarding CAFE and such actually amounts to ANYTHING. All the oil is going to eventually get used up by china, and they will use it up in the most polluting possible ways. The way I see your scanario is that we're now forcing people to pay tons of money on super efficient cars so that we can preserve the fuel supply so that our enemies can have it when they begin expanding. So we intentionally hobble ourselves for nothing. In that light, not only is CAFE illegal as I have been saying, but it's also incredibly useless and therefore is utter STUPIDITY. |
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This time they took YOUR tax dollars and GAVE them to people in exchange for their perfectly good used cars so they could GRIND THEM UP, so you won't be able to find one when you are shopping for one in the future to get aroud this CAFE crap. Cash for Knuckleheads. |
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Like many on here you back up your statements by acting as if you didn't make them and the other person is crazy. I can't be the only Camaro enthusiast who doesn't want the Camaro to devolve into a Honda accord or an econo cruze. Now explain to me how foolish I am for not wanting the Camaro to be just like every other boring middle of the road Honda, Nissan, or Toyota. Go ahead and speak the praises of the Accord and 4 cylinder hybrid econo boxes. Tell us how the days of fire breathing muscle cars are thankfully over and We should embrace mediocrity. The Camaro has never been mediocre, just another coupe for the masses. I believe it's special and one of Americas unique muscle cars. That why I'm on this site. They make Honda sites and Prius chat for people who really like them. |
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