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v6sonoma 01-08-2014 11:27 AM

A question that I don't think has been asked.
 
So most people have been speculating what the design of the 6th Gen could look like and wondering what it might include.

My question is what is it that you DON'T want to see in the 6th gen? :popcorn:

Unrulie 01-08-2014 11:37 AM

Police lights :smiling1:

Johnman 04-01-2014 12:02 PM

I don't want to see a return to the bubble back rear window/no rear-quarter window design. We had enough years of that.

Bhobbs 04-01-2014 12:55 PM

A lot of weight.

motorhead 04-01-2014 01:03 PM

Crappy interior.

ROD_SS 04-01-2014 01:34 PM

A lot of weight, not having the same look of interior as all the other fleet of cars in Chevy, heavy cast wheels (worth a shot)

RubberChicken 04-02-2014 11:17 AM

The 2014 taillights and put the word "Camaro" back on the steering wheel! Heck, the Impala has it's own logo.

BaylorCamaro 04-02-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ROD_SS (Post 7544199)
A lot of weight, not having the same look of interior as all the other fleet of cars in Chevy, heavy cast wheels (worth a shot)

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Originally Posted by RubberChicken (Post 7546830)
The 2014 taillights and put the word "Camaro" back on the steering wheel! Heck, the Impala has it's own logo.

:word:

2010SLVRBULIT 04-02-2014 05:52 PM

here's hoping it's all new w/o any carry-over from the '10 and up.

DrkPhx 04-02-2014 07:19 PM

Please remove the over sized front and rear bowties and bring back a modern version of the 70's and 80's Camaro flag emblem. Keep it small or leave it off; but please ditch the giant bowties. The Vette doesn't have them and neither should the Camaro imo.


http://img185.exs.cx/img185/2536/camarologo7km.jpg

http://www.autopartsdb.net/images/pr...g/C/CM6843.JPG

VRYALT3R3D 04-02-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx (Post 7548448)
Please remove the over sized front and rear bowties and bring back a modern version of the 70's and 80's Camaro flag emblem. Keep it small or leave it off; but please ditch the giant bowties. The Vette doesn't have them and neither should the Camaro imo.


http://img185.exs.cx/img185/2536/camarologo7km.jpg

http://www.autopartsdb.net/images/pr...g/C/CM6843.JPG

gross

mikeyg36 04-02-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx (Post 7548448)
Please remove the over sized front and rear bowties and bring back a modern version of the 70's and 80's Camaro flag emblem. Keep it small or leave it off; but please ditch the giant bowties. The Vette doesn't have them and neither should the Camaro imo.


http://img185.exs.cx/img185/2536/camarologo7km.jpg

http://www.autopartsdb.net/images/pr...g/C/CM6843.JPG

Those are ugly and old.

liberty 04-03-2014 02:58 AM

Don't want to see:

1) L99 engine - I'd have bought an SS auto by now - but not with the inferior L99
2) Poor visibility
3) Bigger wheels/tires - I want to ride on comfortable rubber, not the rims
4) Summer tires - I'm not going "racin"
5) Heated seats - In Florida I need cooled seats
6) Retro dash/interior - Check out the 2014 Impala SS - copy dash and interior
7) GM hallmark: questionable reliability of new designs/models

detamble13 04-03-2014 08:40 AM

I don't want to see a 6th gen Z28... but rather stick with the track dedicated Z/28. And I agree with removing the bow tie but I'm not a fan of the Red White and Blue emblem used on the 2nd and 3rd gens (not sure if used on the fourth gen?) The heritage grill looks just fine without a bow tie so I'd suggest designing a good looking grille that doesn't incorporate one.

WHAMMO 04-04-2014 02:19 PM

It was used on the 4th gen and I liked it a lot. Maybe a modern version would be great. Just remove weight!!

Angrybird 12 04-04-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by detamble13 (Post 7549688)
I don't want to see a 6th gen Z28... but rather stick with the track dedicated Z/28. And I agree with removing the bow tie but I'm not a fan of the Red White and Blue emblem used on the 2nd and 3rd gens (not sure if used on the fourth gen?) The heritage grill looks just fine without a bow tie so I'd suggest designing a good looking grille that doesn't incorporate one.

Yes the red white and blue emblem was used on 4th gens.
Here is one from 95.

detamble13 04-07-2014 01:38 PM

Thanks for the info. A Red White and Blue emblem was also used on Mustangs (not sure what generations) and it was very similar to the one used on the Camaro. So what pony car used them first?
In terms of emblems I like the SS in the center of the grille... maybe just leave the V6 with the bow tie. And I really wish engine displacement was advertised on the car (V8's only) in cubic inches

Edwin320 04-07-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12 (Post 7553674)
Yes the red white and blue emblem was used on 4th gens.
Here is one from 95.

That emblem was used through 2002.

Outlander 04-10-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by detamble13 (Post 7560948)
Thanks for the info. A Red White and Blue emblem was also used on Mustangs (not sure what generations) and it was very similar to the one used on the Camaro. So what pony car used them first?

Could be wrong but I'm guessing these guys on a Javelin or something.

http://www.zeroto60times.com/blog/wp...2/AMC-Logo.jpg

Angrybird 12 04-10-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Outlander (Post 7569319)
Could be wrong but I'm guessing these guys on a Javelin or something.

http://www.zeroto60times.com/blog/wp...2/AMC-Logo.jpg

All AMCs had that emblem on them for a few years, sort of like the GM Chicklet.

detamble13 04-10-2014 01:15 PM

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Here's the Mustang emblem... eerily similar

spyderbuddy 04-10-2014 01:55 PM

Use the flowtie than bowtie

29er 04-12-2014 11:35 AM

too much electronics. the less the better. scrap all the gizmos; hud,back up cameras,electric steering that fail electronic suspensions, stupid key stuck in ignition, no electric door latch... i think that's enough.

the more simple less trouble and less trip at the dealer. we want to drive. not sit and wait while it's getting fixed.

Red Chief 04-13-2014 04:11 PM

-A corporate sellout like the 2015 Mustang(corporate grille, 4 banger trim, etc)
-A body just as bulky(and heavy) as the current model
-The refresh tailights
-The refresh chrome strip above the grill

Just don't f-k it up like Ford did with the Mustang. Stay true the car's roots and don't try to make it look like something it's not.

samurai 04-15-2014 06:06 AM

I dont want to see:
- Cheap interior quality/look (like mentioned here, something like 2014 SS Impala interior would be awesome)
- Too much futuristic design elements, keep it close to the origins (big and aggressive lookin)
- Heavy weigth
- Visibility (at least add a few parking sensors for contries with smaller parking space than the us)
- Dumbo mirrors on the eu models, just find a better looking solution

pgviper 04-15-2014 02:22 PM

Don't want to see:

Gas guzzler tax
Same or more weight than current 5th gen
mustang tail lights : )

Lt1 + handling capability of 1le + diet = awesome 6th gen

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-17-2014 02:10 AM

I don't want to see a Z/28. I want to see a Z28.

Bhobbs 04-17-2014 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 7587785)
I don't want to see a Z/28. I want to see a Z28.

How would you build a Z28?

Camaro_Corvette 04-17-2014 01:19 PM

Retro interior...

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-17-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 7587796)
How would you build a Z28?

Start with a price point of $55-65K range, honestly that has to be addressed and even still that's pricey but affordable than the current Z/28. Keep some of the attributes the Z/28 has but scale it down. If Chevrolet can dedicate their effort in making a track ready car, they can make an affordable car. And no the 1LE isn't what I mean either.

MikeOD 04-17-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnman (Post 7543980)
I don't want to see a return to the bubble back rear window/no rear-quarter window design. We had enough years of that.

You know what's awesome at 75mph with the windows down??? Windows the length of what's in a 4th gen...so much less wind noise in a 4th gen on the highway than in a 5th gen. So I'd like to see quarter windows that can roll down like the real old cars.

Bhobbs 04-17-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 7589177)
Start with a price point of $55-65K range, honestly that has to be addressed and even still that's pricey but affordable than the current Z/28. Keep some of the attributes the Z/28 has but scale it down. If Chevrolet can dedicate their effort in making a track ready car, they can make an affordable car. And no the 1LE isn't what I mean either.

How is it not? It seems to fit what you say, other than not having a Z28 badge.

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-18-2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 7589931)
How is it not? It seems to fit what you say, other than not having a Z28 badge.

Had a 1LE already and it wasn't all that great to be honest. If it had a Z28 badge on it I would have traded it in regardless. Put a LS7 in the 1LE and I may change my mind but even still I want to see results. The 1LE felt loose, didnt feel grounded. I wasn't impressed.

Bhobbs 04-18-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 7590893)
Had a 1LE already and it wasn't all that great to be honest. If it had a Z28 badge on it I would have traded it in regardless. Put a LS7 in the 1LE and I may change my mind but even still I want to see results. The 1LE felt loose, didnt feel grounded. I wasn't impressed.

So you want a Z/28 but don't want the premium it commands? An LS7 1LE would probably be slower than the ZL1 but the same price.

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-18-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 7590924)
So you want a Z/28 but don't want the premium it commands? An LS7 1LE would probably be slower than the ZL1 but the same price.

I want a Z28. Not a Z/28 to what we know it. The Z/28 shouldn't have been called that honestly. A premium of $75K and now will most likely be $100K value for a Camaro mind you is wrong. Did you pay premium for your Z28? Sounds like it was pretty damn affordable to me.

Bhobbs 04-18-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 7592024)
I want a Z28. Not a Z/28 to what we know it. The Z/28 shouldn't have been called that honestly. A premium of $75K and now will most likely be $100K value for a Camaro mind you is wrong. Did you pay premium for your Z28? Sounds like it was pretty damn affordable to me.

What should if have been called?

Did I pay a premium for the Z28? Of course not because GM didn't put anywhere near the effort into it. It's not even in the same universe as the 2014 Z/28. They didn't even put in the best N/A engine they had. Corvette was all they cared about and because of that, the Camaro died.


$75k is wrong to you but not to me. Everyone wants the Camaro to compete with the best cars in the world. Well you gotta pay to play.

v6sonoma 04-18-2014 03:39 PM

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Just an FYI but the Camaro emblem has already made an appearance on the 5th gen.

I think it can be made nice for a 6th gen as well. As far as removing the Bowtie... NEVER gonna happen. The Corvette is a Chevy but it's much more than that. It's a car that someone would shop but never would look at another GM car. The Camaro is really the working mans halo car. You might get smaller or differently designed Bowties but if you think they would ever remove them 100% your crazy.

That said whats with all the hate! lol

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-20-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 7592036)
What should if have been called?

Did I pay a premium for the Z28? Of course not because GM didn't put anywhere near the effort into it. It's not even in the same universe as the 2014 Z/28. They didn't even put in the best N/A engine they had. Corvette was all they cared about and because of that, the Camaro died.


$75k is wrong to you but not to me. Everyone wants the Camaro to compete with the best cars in the world. Well you gotta pay to play.

If you release a Camaro that has a price tag that the average/slight above average consumer can't buy how will it not die? The Z/28 is alive because of the other trims below it. The Camaro brand won't sustain just based off of Z/28's they don't make enough and if you make enough of them they WILL sit because its too expensive. I see alot of Z28s on the road. Alot of them. So while you say they didnt put much effort in it, you own one and many others do. Pay to play is that your ending statement? Well that doesn't apply. I've paid and still waiting....

Bhobbs 04-20-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 7595812)
If you release a Camaro that has a price tag that the average/slight above average consumer can't buy how will it not die? The Z/28 is alive because of the other trims below it. The Camaro brand won't sustain just based off of Z/28's they don't make enough and if you make enough of them they WILL sit because its too expensive. I see alot of Z28s on the road. Alot of them. So while you say they didnt put much effort in it, you own one and many others do. Pay to play is that your ending statement? Well that doesn't apply. I've paid and still waiting....

There are plenty of Camaros of different price levels. The Z/28 has nothing to do with people buying V6s or SSs.

You see a lot of Z28s because they were the SSs of the 4th gen. They were nothing special. Yes I own one and accept what they are. Seems like you have them made out to be something they aren't.

The Camaro isn't going to live or die off the Z/28, just like the ZL1. It has the V6 SS to support it. I bet they sell every Z/28 they build.


You're waiting for something that will never come because even you don't know what you want in the car.

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-20-2014 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 7595821)
There are plenty of Camaros of different price levels. The Z/28 has nothing to do with people buying V6s or SSs.

You see a lot of Z28s because they were the SSs of the 4th gen. They were nothing special. Yes I own one and accept what they are. Seems like you have them made out to be something they aren't.

The Camaro isn't going to live or die off the Z/28, just like the ZL1. It has the V6 SS to support it. I bet they sell every Z/28 they build.


You're waiting for something that will never come because even you don't know what you want in the car.

Guess ill be waiting then. In anycase if you want to further talk about it, PMs are available at your disposal. Your opinion or whatever you choose to call it won't sway my mind. I've given you enough attention as it is. Enjoy your Z28 the car in your mind GM didn't really put much effort in.


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