More Details on the 2020 LT1
 

Here are some more details on the 2020 LT1:

Model designation is 1LZ.

7" Chevy Infotainment 3 system. Voice recognition only through phone.

8" Chevy Infotainment 3 system available as part of Technology Package.

Has same single zone climate control as SS.

Has standard Driver information Center, rather than 8" Enhanced of SS.

Visor vanity mirrors are non-illuminated (SS are illuminated).

4 piston Brembo brakes in the front, and non-Brembo in the rear (SS has Brembo in the rear).

No external engine oil cooler, extra capacity cooling system, engine coolant auxiliary cooler, transmission cooler or differential cooler that are included with SS.

New 20" silver painted aluminum wheels (non-staggered).

245/45R20 All season run flat tires front and rear.

FE3 Performance suspension standard (same as SS).

Magnetic ride control not available.

6-speed Manual Transmission does not include rev matching that SS has.

OnStar/SiriusXM fin antenna black instead of body color on the SS.

Taillights not dark tinted (SS taillights are dark tinted).

No standard rear spoiler. Lip spoiler optional.

Curb weight of LT1 with 6 speed manual is 66 pounds lighter than SS.

The lack of MRC option is the biggest disappointment, along with no rev match. I guess I thought rev match was mainly software.

Not if you think about why GM is offering the LT1. It's a low cost way to get the V8. If you want more of the goodies, you can have them. You can get MR shocks in a V8 Camaro.

They didn't come up with the LT1 so that you could selectively option down a 1SS. There is no way they would let you get an LT1 and make it a 1SS by checking option codes. It has to be something less than an SS.

As mentioned, can you imagine an LT1 1LE? That would simply make no sense. But we are talking about GM so who knows.

Just the way it should be, a V8, 10 speed auto and all the junk you dont need on the car...priceless.... thank you chevy.

Hopefully, the LT1 will be the perfect buyer alternative to all those base Mustang GTs Ford is using to kick the Camaro’s butt in the annual sales race.

Well the way I see it is that Chevy is offering a lower cost alternative V8 Camaro to the SS after people have been asking for one which is good but won’t satisfy some folks! I can see by some of the replies that some want more options and will complain that they can’t get them on the LT-1. I commend the Camaro team that they offer a lower cost V8 Camaro for people that can’t afford or want a higher cost 1SS or 2SS but they won’t be able to please everyone. My opinion is if you want more options then buy a 2SS!

Sometimes I just put my head in my hand and sigh.

All of this sounds pretty reasonable. Like others said, if too many options were offered, you may as well get a 1SS at that point.

This seems like a good option for people who want a basic V8 who can put their own mods onto it.

I hereby proclaim the 2020 LT1 Camaro will be the fastest V8 NA Camaro ever built. Except for maybe a '69 ZL1 on slicks. :)

And also good match for the base Rustang GT.

More discussion here.

I started reading this list, and wondered how much the weight would come down, and then there's the answer right at the end! lol

Cool! So a standard optioned LT1 will weigh what....somewhere in the high 3,500 to low 3,600 lb range? Pretty sure the standard 1SS with manual was coming in around 3,650 to 3,675 lbs.

How much of a weight advantage would that be compared to a base Mustang GT?

EDIT: Got it: https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...2019.tab1.html

According to the above link , a 2020 LT1 Camaro would weigh 3,619 lbs. That would give it right around 100lbs less than the base GT.

Great info

Can confirm all of these as saw one at the Detroit grand prix. Also doesn't have the extra air vents to cool the front brakes. but I don't remember the antenna fin being black

Perhaps instead you should make a more convincing and detailed argument - in this thread or the other - for what the difference between the LT1, the hypothetical LT1 1LE and/or highly optioned-up LT1 you want, a 1SS, and a 1SS 1LE would be in price and specs.

Your analysis of why it would be economical for GM to have two cars trims which are (or could be ordered to) have virtually identical equipment would help, too. No where else in the Camaro lineup is that currently possible.

That said, IF rev match is indeed just software, I would agree with you that feature could have been left in the LT1 without adversely affecting the rationale for the LT1 which Number 3 has outlined. Unless they've found that they can save money by using the paddle-less LT-spec wheel on the manual LT1, rather than the manual SS wheel with paddles?

Considering the LT1 has standard brakes, no cooling for the track, no MRC and no rev match, this seems to me to be quarter mile bruiser. Light/stripped car with big engine that goes straight. Now I'm wondering if we're going to see a $45,000 2021 LT4. :pop2:

This car should sell a bunch.

Just curious who makes the all-season run flat tires? :pop2:

Goodyear Eagle F1s on my V6 RS. They are OK in the dry and not great in the wet. With the LT1 the car will be severely traction limited I believe. Should make for easy burnouts though! :bellyroll:

The LT1 will have the same size tires front and back according to the information. This Camaro will be a gearheads dream because of the mods you can do to it.

Everything looked good till they said its only 66lbs lighter... no real gains there if it would've been at least 150lbs lighter it would've been a game changer. But taking everything off just shows that this car was just focused on camaro sales and not really performance.

For all of those people who slapped LT1 badges on their SS Camaros, the uneducated population will think you have a basic V8 Camaro. :noidea:

...Is there any doubt that was always the point of this trim level?

I thought 66lbs over a base 1ss was pretty good. U gotta remember over a mrc npp or def a 1le car it will be closer to your 150lb

Performance was never the focus of this car. A cheaper V8 car IS the focus. Geez.

66 lbs of less weight is just a bonus.

It's not 66lbs less of useless stuff though is it? It's not like they are drilling big holes in all the useless metal in the body of the car, they're removing or changing out things that have a function.

Kinda like how they saved weight by not putting any sound deadening in the car. Yea, you saved weight, but we just have to add it back in if we dont want the whole car to vibrate anytime you press the gas pedal.

Where are the real life pics. I some where it was on display somewhere.

Having a cheaper entry point for the V8 Camaro was the point bud, not improving performance.

The base GT is 3,705 lbs, so 86 lbs. difference. Nice advantage for the LT1; I wish the GT was 100 lbs lighter than it is. Also - I'm surprised they gave the LT1 front 4-piston Brembos instead of non-branded brakes. Going with GM stock brakes and 19" wheels could have likely saved even more on the price. The LT1 sort of reminds of a modern version of the RS package of the early 90s, except this has the same engine whereas that car had a weaker V8 engine than the Z28.

The lack of engine oil, transmission, and differential coolers is puzzling.

My understanding is the SS is setup for the race track, this one should be fine for the street but it won't be good for more than a few laps at the track, like a Mustang or GT350 without the track pack 😋

Seems like with what they dropped they could have lowered the price a smidge more. Sounds like it doesn't have LED tail lights and headlights...?

A lot like the old Formula package. I like it.

It makes perfect sense for a drag car setup.

Bingo! All the power and handling of a Trans Am with the looks of a base Firebird. If it can be had with NPP - assuming it has the same drive modes - can pull the stealth mode (S/I) to track mode switch at the line...

Ya I thought so too. But $3k off puts it back where the 5th gen 1SS sold for if I remember right. So a better car for the same price.

It's a good option for someone looking for a better than average cookie cutter commuter car and/or wanting just a little more than the base Turbo 4 or the 6 cylinder without going to an SS.

It won't tempt me, I'm still loving my relatively base 2016 6 cylinder M/T as my commuter car. Decent on gas, low on insurance and runs on cheap 87 octane gas. Probably the lowest cost to own Camaro option.

You could get a 2SS/RS for that back in the 2010 model year. My 2010 M6 2SS/RS was between $35k-$36k.

Don't forget to factor in inflation.

36,000 in 2010 is equal to $41,700 today

I'm aware. My comment was in response to a 1SS 5th gen being around $35k.

The sticker is higher but there were quite a few new 1SS's in the 31-32k range when I was shopping in early '17. Debated it but wanted leather and gadgets. Picked up my 2SS for 38k on the same lot with a 44k+ sticker. Was listed for 37k but passed on $1k incentive through GM financial.

The 1SS MSRP was $32,280 in 2012.

https://www.autotrader.com/Chevrolet/Camaro/2012

Inflation estimator result:

$32,280 in 2012 → $35,304.62 in 2018

http://www.in2013dollars.com/2012-do...8?amount=32280

Faster, better, same price. Plus I think I was paying $4 a gallon for regular fuel back in 2012.

What I'm really wondering is how 4 cyl and V6 Models will hold up after this is released.

1ss way better value. All the upgrades are worth way more than the price difference. the
value sweet spots

1ss is daily driver, with magnetic and active exhaust + $300 black wheel addon.
AND
1le is for more track focused, but more annoying wider wheels/tires (kick rocks up that chip your paint)

better value than the mustang equivalents.