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Steve@HPE 09-14-2013 08:43 PM

Anyone worried GM will ruin the 6th gen Camaro?
 
After seeing what they did to the C7 Corvette rear fascia I'm growing concerned they're going to ruin the 6th generation Camaro. Add to that the polarizing change to the 2014 Camaro tail lights, I'm not optimistic we're going to get a better looking 6th gen Camaro. I mean look at the rear fascia of the new Corvette, what were they thinking?

http://carrolodex.files.wordpress.co...te-c7-rear.jpg

PYROLYSIS 09-14-2013 08:45 PM

Judging by that picture we're in good hands in my opinion. I love everything about the C7.

Supercharged SS 09-14-2013 08:46 PM

That's why I kept the camaro while ordering the C7.;)

lobobuzz 09-14-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 7003097)
Judging by that picture we're in good hands in my opinion. I love everything about the C7.

Agreed!!

Soloshawn 09-14-2013 08:48 PM

I love the C7 rear end. The Corvette needed a drastic change because they were boring to look at. One reason the Camaro's got more looks than the Vette's was because it was new an meaty. Change is OK. I will still keep my Camaro though even if I buy the new version.

Kleeeb 09-15-2013 10:50 AM

I really like the c7 Corvette. I don't think GM ruined them at all, and if the 6th gen follows anywhere near the the styling or design cues of the 2014 corvette, I will be more than pleased.

e7lek 09-15-2013 11:06 AM

by the looks of the transformers 4 leaked photos.. looks alright. should be more edgy than roundy in the front imho though

Magilla gorilla 09-15-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 7003097)
Judging by that picture we're in good hands in my opinion. I love everything about the C7.

:word:

214Chevelle 09-15-2013 11:14 AM

Looks like we have more "likes---:thumb:" than "dislikes", including me. I love the C7....sorry!! Would love to own one.

snaphappy 09-15-2013 11:24 AM

In love with everything about the C7

FenwickHockey65 09-15-2013 11:29 AM

C7 is perfect.

GroundhogSS 09-15-2013 11:52 AM

I like the C7 also.

Camaro_Corvette 09-15-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 (Post 7003240)
C7 is perfect.

Not yet. I'm going to say in a few years I'll be dying to have me a Z06!

FINALLYSATISFIED 09-15-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve@HPE (Post 7003084)
After seeing what they did to the C7 Corvette rear fascia I'm growing concerned they're going to ruin the 6th generation Camaro. Add to that the polarizing change to the 2014 Camaro tail lights, I'm not optimistic we're going to get a better looking 6th gen Camaro. I mean look at the rear fascia of the new Corvette, what were they thinking?

http://carrolodex.files.wordpress.co...te-c7-rear.jpg

I'm a fan of the rear end on the C7 Corvette but not a fan of the '14 tail lights on the Camaro.

dixonk 09-15-2013 01:10 PM

What's wrong with the C7??? In my opinion they finally got it right!!! The new Vette looks right sitting next to any exotic now.

SPCBA 09-15-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette (Post 7003333)
Not yet. I'm going to say in a few years I'll be dying to have me a Z06!

would be nice!
c7 looks amazing in person

Steve@HPE 09-15-2013 01:40 PM

Every other aspect of the design is very well done, although I'm surprised it has such skinny wheels on it. I have a 2011 Z06 with the Z07 performance package that cost me a fortune, so maybe I'm a little biased :)

Still, that rear fascia looks like something for a Pontiac, it just doesn't flow with the design of the rest of the car IMO. I think it's the tear drop vents on the outside tail lights and the more prominent V shape of the emblem.

Glen e 09-15-2013 02:01 PM

Steve - I don't disagree and have ordered a new C7...the only design element I don't like is the black "tear" to the outside of the taillight you show. RPI is now offering body colored bezels that should take care of that.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...edtlbezels.jpg

Coming by your house on 95 in about 60 days, I'll stop and we'll visit....

Steve@HPE 09-15-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Glen e (Post 7003686)
Steve - I don't disagree and have ordered a new C7...the only design element I don't like is the black "tear" to the outside of the taillight you show. RPI is now offering body colored bezels that should take care of that.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...edtlbezels.jpg

Coming by your house on 95 in about 60 days, I'll stop and we'll visit....

Hey Glen....I think making that vent bezel the body color will help a bunch! The fact that RPI offers that is an indicator that the rear fascia has not been well received. Will you have your C7 by then? I saw a truck load of them head south on I95 yesterday!

Number 3 09-15-2013 02:11 PM

The biggest questions on the NG car will be retro or not. It's that simple. If you think the Camaro has to represent the history of the car then that one question is most critical for you.

If you look at everything that GM has done with the launches since the Camaro you can get a feel for what is coming.

Improvements to the Impala, heralded by pretty much everyone. Huge step up in the interior. Added many technology upgrades. Solid all around.

ATS. Still has the vision problems associated with high belt, slammed roof and huge C-pillars. Giant up grade in the interior. Giant demonstration of GM's prowess in ride and handling. CUE is a great start. Not liked by many yet but it's growing on me even.

CTS. Demonstration of what GM can do with an architectural variant off of Alpha. Application of further powertrain enhancements and V-sport tuning.

FST and Utilities. Very solid evolutions on interior, exterior, powertrain and NVH.

Yes we have to wait for real reviews of a few of these products, but preliminary reviews are pretty solid.

And your use of the C7, well that has been a bit polarizing but for the most part it's growing on people. My opinion, GM could have made it very plain, i.e. Porsche rear ends and done ok. You won't mistake this going down the road.

As for the Camaro refresh for 2014, that is a historical reference to later Camaros which takes us back to the first question. Retro or not to retro.

For me, I hope they go far beyond with the Camaro and take a bold step forward and leave the history behind. I predict they don't have the courage to do that and it would take courage.

But we will have to see what happens....................annnnnnd the anticipation continues.

Blk-Ice 09-15-2013 02:12 PM

IMO the C7 is a Home Run! As for the C6 Camaro.....if it looks anything like the possible concept Veh in the spy shots for the new Transformers Movie.....that's ALL fail except the hood!

Glen e 09-15-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve@HPE (Post 7003711)
Hey Glen....I think making that vent bezel the body color will help a bunch! The fact that RPI offers that is an indicator that the rear fascia has not been well received. Will you have your C7 by then? I saw a truck load of them head south on I95 yesterday!

should have by Nov10th - another interesting note - I got a few dealers to value my trade before I found a better offer up north for the Camaro. Every one of the used car managers said the vents looked nice and they were most concerned if the engine would get wet. When I showed them the pans, they totally liked the mod and did not shy away from giving me ex-clean money for the car...Just in case anyone is worrying that Steve's vents may hurt resale...

Firefighter 09-15-2013 02:35 PM

The 6th Gen Camaro will be fine. The C7 Corvette is good as long as all the vents are body color. I am anxious to see what happens when the ZO6 and the ZR1 come out. The Base and Z51 are really setting the bar high.

Steve@HPE 09-15-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3 (Post 7003726)
The biggest questions on the NG car will be retro or not. It's that simple. If you think the Camaro has to represent the history of the car then that one question is most critical for you.

If you look at everything that GM has done with the launches since the Camaro you can get a feel for what is coming.

Improvements to the Impala, heralded by pretty much everyone. Huge step up in the interior. Added many technology upgrades. Solid all around.

ATS. Still has the vision problems associated with high belt, slammed roof and huge C-pillars. Giant up grade in the interior. Giant demonstration of GM's prowess in ride and handling. CUE is a great start. Not liked by many yet but it's growing on me even.

CTS. Demonstration of what GM can do with an architectural variant off of Alpha. Application of further powertrain enhancements and V-sport tuning.

FST and Utilities. Very solid evolutions on interior, exterior, powertrain and NVH.

Yes we have to wait for real reviews of a few of these products, but preliminary reviews are pretty solid.

And your use of the C7, well that has been a bit polarizing but for the most part it's growing on people. My opinion, GM could have made it very plain, i.e. Porsche rear ends and done ok. You won't mistake this going down the road.

As for the Camaro refresh for 2014, that is a historical reference to later Camaros which takes us back to the first question. Retro or not to retro.

For me, I hope they go far beyond with the Camaro and take a bold step forward and leave the history behind. I predict they don't have the courage to do that and it would take courage.

But we will have to see what happens....................annnnnnd the anticipation continues.

Good post....clearly GM is making great improvements in key areas, interior design being the most prominent. The interior of the C7 Corvette is reminiscent of high-end German sedans and sports cars.

I suspect they'll get the 6th generation Camaro mostly right. Heck, they've got a huge user community here from which to gather input.

Steve@HPE 09-15-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter (Post 7003791)
The 6th Gen Camaro will be fine. The C7 Corvette is good as long as all the vents are body color. I am anxious to see what happens when the ZO6 and the ZR1 come out. The Base and Z51 are really setting the bar high.

That's what I'm waiting for, the C6 Z06 is a huge upgrade over the base model C6.

fielderLS3 09-15-2013 04:19 PM

The rear fascia on the Corvette is ok on the Corvette. I don't love it, but I don't hate it either.

Given what they did with the 2014 Camaro rear end, here's praying the do change it to something else.

Angrybird 12 09-15-2013 04:31 PM

Like everything else some will love it some will hate it and others won't care because its a Camaro..,

Fourth Camaro 09-15-2013 04:45 PM

So far, the only color I've seen that the tear drop is not that flattering is the crystal red.
Every other color, I think the rear fascia is gorgeous.

http://www.roadtesttv.com/wp-content...vette-rear.jpg

Blue17CamaroZL1 09-15-2013 04:47 PM

There's only one thing I dislike about the C7.

And that is ...







one is not sitting in my driveway!!!

Number 3 09-15-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@HPE (Post 7003832)
Good post....clearly GM is making great improvements in key areas, interior design being the most prominent. The interior of the C7 Corvette is reminiscent of high-end German sedans and sports cars.

I suspect they'll get the 6th generation Camaro mostly right. Heck, they've got a huge user community here from which to gather input.

I predict...................and you can mark this date in history..............THEY WON'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY not matter what they do.

Just sayin'

fielderLS3 09-15-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3 (Post 7004172)
I predict...................and you can mark this date in history..............THEY WON'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY not matter what they do.

Just sayin'

Well they should, even if it is impossible.:)

turboguy327 09-15-2013 05:44 PM

I'm more worried about what car they will copy and how badly they will copy it. That's how they got the C7. So I would imagine that's how they will do the 6th gen camaro. Either way it will look horrible just like the C7.

Ashley@HPE 09-15-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fourth Camaro (Post 7004167)
So far, the only color I've seen that the tear drop is not that flattering is the crystal red.
Every other color, I think the rear fascia is gorgeous.

http://www.roadtesttv.com/wp-content...vette-rear.jpg

I must admit, that camera angle is the best I've seen that rear fascia look.

SkullDuggery 09-15-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by turboguy327 (Post 7004339)
I'm more worried about what car they will copy and how badly they will copy it. That's how they got the C7. So I would imagine that's how they will do the 6th gen camaro. Either way it will look horrible just like the C7.

And what car did they copy for the C7 toughguy?

FenwickHockey65 09-15-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboguy327 (Post 7004339)
I'm more worried about what car they will copy and how badly they will copy it. That's how they got the C7. So I would imagine that's how they will do the 6th gen camaro. Either way it will look horrible just like the C7.

Pfffft.

KMPrenger 09-15-2013 06:49 PM

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I love the C7...plain and simple. I'd own one in a heartbeat.

That said, the rear end doesn't settle well with me either. In my perfect world, those tail lights (without the tear drop) would have ended up on the 2014 Camaro refresh or even better, the 6th gen Camaro. They look like a perfect modern aggressive evolution of the tail lights on the Camaro. They even have a bit of that afterburner affect that the Camaro concept had. I guess what I'm trying to say is I love the tail lights on the C7....but not on that car.

The C7 would have ended up with oval (not round) lights again, but of course not the simple ones the C6 has. I'm talking a dual layered LED lens like the C7 currently has. In the night they would have had an oval glow with a dark center that lit up when the brakes were hit.

Man if only that had happened everyone would love both rear ends instead of the complaints we've been seeing. Not that I don't think the new rears for both cars won't grow on people...they always do. I just don't feel it is as good as it could have been. My .02.

I'll leave you guys with this....basically some photoshopped C7 tail lights slightly altered on the back of my car :)

Optimus 09-15-2013 07:00 PM

As someone already stated, not everyone is going to be happy but that's just life. For the rest of us, we are in good hands. C7, Impala, Emergency Redesign of the Malibu (great improvement), ATS, CTS, Silverado/Sierra and the new Tahoe...

Nice Job GM!

midnighter 09-15-2013 07:12 PM

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SLS 62 09-15-2013 07:14 PM

All these complaints about the rear end of the C7 will go away when people see the car with their own eyes. I've seen one , the car is a masterpiece . :thumb:

unkillsam 09-15-2013 07:44 PM

I think that the majority of the complaints about the C7 and 14 Camaro rear end is how HUGE GM has made the black plastic diffusers. The C7 still is not too bad but the 14 Camaro
is awful.


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