I wouldn't want one. I'm a neanderthal I guess but to me there has to be the option of an 8. I don't care if the 4 is 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile, the sound and feel of a pushrod 8 cannot be replicated in a turbo 4. I think even Porsche finally gave up on developing a turbo 4.

I guess I'm a Neanderthal also, and at the risk of being a troll: four-cylinder engines will always remind me of tractors.

OMG Big mistake. 4 Cylinder? Big Mistake!

Might as well make it front wheel drive while they are at it.

Yup and it actually comes in at just under 3300 pounds for a base 2.0T. I have one right now with a ship weight of 3307 but it has some added options.

As someone that has driven and ATS with the 2.0T with a manual and automatic, I'm ok with them at least offering this engine on the 6th gen. There will certainly be a V8 option so everyone needs to just relaxe. The 2.0T is a very capable engine when it's in a car that's not too heavy. The big question is whether they can keep the weight down on the next Camaro.

Darkness, you may be partially correct, but I think we should hold out faith for sure. For one, I believe that if they erase the V6 option, then they turbo 4 will have at least 300+ HP and probably that much torque, making the 6th gen base option just as quick as the current base car if not a tad quicker because of the weight difference and low end torque of the turbo. But more of my opinion on this below...

Your comments here thus far have made no sense. Have you not seen what can be done with the GM 2.0 engines? Can't wait to see your face when tuned and lightly modded 6th gens with the turbo 4 are running with or beating a 5th gen SS. You've got elitist SS owner written all over you lol.

Look guys...we need look no further than the absolutely wonderful performing ATS to see what kind of possibilities we may have with the next gen Camaro on the Alpha platform. The base ATS weighs in the low to mid 3,300 range. A loaded ATS with the V6 is in the 3,400 lb range. I fully expect the base 6th gen Camaro to start in the same 3,300 lb range, V6 in the 3,400 lb range and finally the V8 variant in the 3,500 range. The weight savings alone would completely change the performance of these cars. Current V6 weighs 3,750 lbs. The V8 weighs somewhere around 100 - 150 lbs more than that, with all its suspension, brake, and drivetrain upgrades.

So if we take the current ATS V6...add another 100 -150 lbs and you guys are looking at an SS (if its even called that) in the 3,550 to 3,600 lb range. Amazing performance potential.

I really hope they offer the LFX as well as the 2.0 in this car...at least for the first year or two. Thats what I'd want. I feel so familiar and happy with the V6 now after modding mine, that I think doing a bolt on/tune LFX in the 350 - 370 HP range would be absolutely awesome. The one thing I hate about my car is the weight. In a lighter car with similar gearing, the V6 would absolutely rip.

I think the performance of the next gen Camaro is going to be the best ever. Now we just have to hope that GM can once again nail the styling :D

The new four banger turbo is a great motor for the Camaro, the people flaming Chevy for it are just trying to be "cool". 272hp from a turbo will monster the current V6 with weight being the same. The torque curve of the turbo will be a huge upgrade, and who doesn't like saving at the pump? All the power with less fuel, yeah so stupid. Some of those turbo 4 cylinder cars out there will give the current SS a run for its money, cue STi and Evo. This won't be on that level, but it won't be slow. Overall, nice job Chevy. I'll keep the V8 for myself, but I would buy the turbo four over the 6cyl for sure.

Um...without the V6, there'd be no V8. On that note, how many cylinders does your Camaro have?? Lol.

I think the gmpp tune on the LNF in the Solstice/Sky bumps it up to 340 ft-lb and 340 hp.....pretty impressive for a 4 banger. That would be a good base model for a lighter camaro.

Different demographic, but I wonder if GM would ever consider a turbo 4 for the vette?

I certainly could be wrong but I would think a turbo 4 would be a midgrade engine just based on manufacturing costs. A turbo 4 would cost more than a six wouldn't it?

The 2.0 turbo may work if they drop about 1500 lbs. off the current Camaro.

Heard this a few years ago that might head in this direction. V8 may be there but cost more then most will pay

Just give a RWD option for the cobalt instead of a 4 cyl. option for the camaro?

I think the part in bold tells the story...

If true...remember...this is all rumor 3 years out....But if true, this isn't "bad news" that makes the car any less of what it will be...rather, imho...it could be fantastic news. We know the people responsible for this car, Camaro...and we know that THEY know what it's all about. Whatever they offer as a base model, be it a V6 or Turbo 4 cylinder, will absolutely live up to the exciting driving dynamic that is the hallmark of a Camaro.

<-- This guy's not worried...in fact, I'm a little bit excited...I'd be all over a 3300-3400 lb turbo 4 6th-gen Camaro to replace the Cobalt, and park alongside the ZL1.....hmmmmmm.....:rolleyes: :D

My turbo cobalt rips. I would leave all of the stock Camaro's on this forum in the dust. The LNF Platform is a beast and there are some serious after market for these motors. If the Camaro was on a serious diet you could easily have a 600 hp LNF motor pushing it.

so much oxygen on so little news..... whew...

I wouldn't mind a lower displacement with forced induction. But it has to have 8 cylinders.

Your cobalt is fast, at the expense of good looks and being a nice sized car. The camaro will never be as small as the civics and cobalts of today. You are preaching to the wrong group if you think we want a really fast go kart, instead of a big aggressive looking car.

Obviously any car on a diet will be faster, I just dont think a turbo 2.0L will be all that quick, I also dont think they are trying to make it fast. Just a more efficient base model that wont be faster than todays V6 camaro.

I would be more concerned with it if I was younger, but now that Ive had my first SS, Im sure I wont own anything with less than 8cylinders in the future, unless its a GTR.

I think a lot of people are missing one thing: There will still be a V8. If you don't want the 2.0T, then buy the V8.

Too many people are focused on the cylinder count and ignore the fact that it's a very versatile and adaptive engine that has already proven itself time and time again. Plus a world-class platform that will be lighter than Zeta.

Meh................ I don't really care. Like Fen said, you can always get the V8.

I think it's funny though. KIA and Hyundai will be proud though. :bellyroll:

If it doesn't come at all with a v8 possibly a front wheel drive, get the sawzall, welder, and one will go in. Plenty of older v8 maros out there. I am seriously thinking of making an HHR small block project when mine gets more miles. It will be a rear wheel drive.

Yawn...................

Perhaps look at it this way.

Offer a base model with a turbo 2.0 for those people that want a Camaro,but are on a budget and want good gas milage. It would also help with the corporate CAFE requirements.

Offer a up-level Camaro with a V6 either NA or FI for a mid-level performance option.

Offer a ZL1 class Camaro using the new DI LT4, either NA or FI.

With these variations, selling Turbo 2's, and V6's will help bring the CAFE milage up towards where it needs to be and allows GM to contiue to produce smaller volumes of cars with the real HP of a DI LT4.

For those that want a Camaro for apperance reasons, they have the Turbo 2 at a low price point,and for those of us that want a Camaro for performance, they can still offer the LT4 V8.

the world will end as we know it...a 4cylinder muscle car...boy am i glad i got my ZL1..i honestly think we wont see a mass produced ZL1 or high performance camaro ever again after the 5th gen

Always wanted a V8 - got it. Always wanted a supercharger - got it.
Always wanted a 68 Camaro = bought a 2011 - got it (well close enough for me). Would not by a 4 - or 6, that's just me. I liked my 350Z with the high rev engine driving through tunnels, love the V8 early morning start.
I'm sure if they put a smart car engine in a Camaro someone would like it.

If they make a V8 (as it states they will) then it's good since it will please many of you folks. If they do make a 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder, then it's probably even better since they will sell a lot more cars and you can probably expect to get a 7 or 8 generation Camaro.

What I am a little skeptical about is the following. I read that for future generations, car makers will start making smaller cars. While we can see why smaller cars might be the future, I really can't imagine a Camaro being smaller since that would take away its mean, manly, muscle, imposing look and it might end up having a weaker look.

The 6th gen V8 will no doubt be smaller than the current 6.2L. I'm betting it'll be 5.5L or what not. Though I'm curious. If they produce a Z-28, which gets the LT1? The Z? Or the SS? I doubt both will have 450hp.

Remember back in the early 70's we bragged about 350 hp V8's, now we bash the 350 hp V6 . Today we brag about our 450 hp V8's, tomorrow (future) we'll bash the 450 hp V6! I can't wait for the future, these are great times to be a motorhead!!!! Bring on whatever makes me go fast.

My first car was one of those.....I actually got it up over 70 once, about needed to change my pants afterwards though. :yikes:

:facepalm::thumbdown:

'You people' that you are referring too are pretty familiar.. Doesn't mean we want a 2.0T in a Camaro. Let me say that again, a CAMARO.

What's more important to sales? Your opinion (as a seller) or our opinion (as your target market). Now I'm no marketing major, but I think it goes without saying that our opinion is far more important.

I have a new Camaro on order. Look at it this way.

Alpha Platform gen 6
base model with 2.0 turbo= 25,000
15k in motor work, exhaust, and bigger turbo = 600 plus hp

Alpha platform gen 6
SS model LS3=40K
430hp

The car I traded for my SS was a 2.0 turbo, VW Audi have up to 265/ 258 hp/tq AND all wheel drive, give me this in the Camaro at 3600 lbs. and I would buy, hate parking it in winter now.

If it's fast and still looks decent, I don't care what engines they drop in. You people have to remember that GM knows they already gave us old timers our car to relive our youth. Now they need to get something out there that young people want to keep the fire burning for GM products. Every manufacturer is heading this direction and there is nothing we can do about it. Thank high fuel mileage standards and high fuel prices for what is going on.

I test drove an ATS with the turbo 2.0L 4cyl. It's just as quick as the Camaro V6, and I drove an automatic ATS (my Camaro is stick). I'm sure it would have felt quicker with the stick.

The ATS goes around corners way better than my Camaro. The difference is crazy. I'd pick a turbo ATS dressed up as a Camaro over what I have right now, and that's essentially what we'll get with the 6th gen.

+10:thumbsup:

It is going to be hard to top this beauty!!! Even Scott (F-Bodfather) mentioned that at are meeting !!:yikes::facepalm:

:thumbdown:4 cylinder Camaro= GARBAGE!!!!!

:word: No one in here can honestly tell me that the Regal 2.0T isn't fast. No one in here can honestly tell me the Cobalt 2.0T wasn't fast. GM didn't do this to the current Camaro due to simple physics. Mass requires a certain amount of acceleration to move the way a Camaro moves. With less mass, less acceleration is necessary to still be fun.

One more from my friend Terminator 2 that tuned this Sky. 368 hp, stock turbo 4 banger LNF. 4.1 sec 60-100.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJny_9tjWUA&list=UL

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...616_181926.jpg

I want a V-8 in my Camaro too, just saying it's a viable alternative for the current V-6 replacement.

I'm not sold on the DI due to valve coking issues, I fought it for the 65k miles I had on my LNF. Also lost a DI injector seal or two at 40k on an ethanol blend. Seals have improved since 2008.

I've owned V-8 musclecars since my '65 Malibu SS in '74 but the tuned LNF was the fastest thing I ever had. It would walk away from Phat Bee 60-100.